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The Crazy Things Pacifists Tell Me

May 17, 2017

I don’t bring up the subject with strangers.  That said, sometimes people find out I’m a gun owner.  The way they respond is remarkable.  I assume that they are sincere in what they say but that assumption is strained.  Their comments are more a confession about themselves than as an honest question directed to me.  I usually bite my tongue because of the social situation.  Then it occurred to me that other gun owners must be hearing similar comments.  I’ve kept my answers to myself.  Now I’ll share them with you.

I live on the safe side of town so I don’t need a gun for protection. I usually hear this from a well-to-do woman and it makes me smile.  Does she think criminals don’t have maps that show them where the rich people live?  Maybe she thinks criminals can’t drive.  The woman is obviously intelligent, yet she has a profound blind-spot when it comes to personal safety.  We didn’t meet inside her gated community.  Why does she think she is safe everywhere?

Guns aren’t the answer.  Maybe guns are not the answer, but then we are certainly talking about different questions.  I assume the speaker knows that the police have firearms for personal protection.  The first person who told me to go armed was a police officer.  I listen to professionals.

People don’t protect themselves with guns any longer.  That is just a fantasy from the old-west.  This one perplexes me.  I assume they read too many cowboy novels.  I think they stopped reading too soon.  They never learned the real history of our western frontier.  Also, the speaker never bothered to learn the facts about armed citizens who carry in public now.  Armed towns on the western frontier were safer than our large democrat-controlled cities are today.  Ain’t that right, Marshal Dillon?

Only the police should have guns. True, the police should have guns, but have you thought about what it is like to be a policeman?  Almost every policeman I’ve met told me to carry because of what they see every day.  Time after time, day after day, the police arrive too late.  They take reports from innocent injured victims.  That is a core part of their job and it has to hurt.  The police would much rather take your report that says you protected yourself and the criminal ran away.

Only criminals have guns.  This is really a statement about how narrow a group of friends the speaker has.  I’m probably the first gun owner they know.. and there are a hundred million gun owners in the US.  To be fair, they probably don’t know anyone who owns a pickup truck either.

You don’t need a gun.  That is true.  I don’t.  I don’t need toothpaste and deodorant either.  I don’t need a fire extinguisher at home or a first aid kit in my car, but I have them..just like I have a firearm.

My husband or wife has a gun, so I don’t need one.  This comment makes me bite my tongue.  I’m thinking they volunteered to be the designated victim..or maybe the designated hostage.  They must have an interesting personal relationship they have with their spouse, but I don’t ask.

Gun’s don’t belong in schools.  Lots of things don’t belong in schools, but I’ve seen them there.  Cuts and broken bones don’t belong in schools, yet we have first-aid kits on scene for a reason.  I won’t pretend that bad things don’t happen.  I won’t lie to make you feel better.  What exactly is their plan when they see more things they don’t want in schools?

You just want to kill someone.  This person obviously has no idea about the huge personal and financial costs of threatening to use lethal force, let alone pulling the trigger.  Ignorance must be bliss.

I couldn’t kill someone.  That is hard to believe.  Maybe the people who say this think they are gentle.  Would they really stand by and watch while their family is threatened or injured?  If I take them seriously, then either they don’t care about other people or they look forward to seeing someone hurt.   Maybe some village lost its sociopath?

People like you shouldn’t have machine guns.  I’ve fired a machine gun.  Not having automatic weapons hasn’t compromised my self-defense plans since I don’t feel the need to fight off a zombie horde tonight.

Why do you want another tool that kills?  I love this question.  I look around the room and see how many things I could use for self-defense.  I’m an engineer so everything is a tool.

You’re more likely to be hurt if you have a gun because the criminal will take your gun away from you.  So they are saying we would all be safer if we disarmed the police and gave guns to criminals?   That way the police would always have a gun when they needed it by taking the criminal’s gun!  It’s an interesting idea, but they can go first and I’ll record the results from here.

I bet I’m not alone.  You’ve heard similar things and you’ve thought similar things.  Thank you for sharing them.. here, and not saying them in public. 😉

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17 Comments leave one →
  1. John longenecker permalink
    May 17, 2017 8:47 am

    And the biggest ignorance is “You can’t take the law into your own hands.”

    “You’re not the police!”

    “You can’t be Vigilantes.”

    “You can’t can’t shoot people!”

    Each reflects a profound ignorance mixed with cowardice. One of my favorite observations is, “You realize, of course, that you are refusing to protect your wife and family . . don’t you? Does your wife know that?”

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  2. Renov8 permalink
    May 17, 2017 9:05 am

    When people I know, who don’t support gun ownership, see me and the topic turns to guns and the 2nd…they walk away. Must be all those prior arguements we had in, which I showed them the stupidity in their thinking… or was it the ignorance displayed by not knowing the facts. Emotional drivel is the basis of 99% of their counter arguements. It gets old after a while.

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  3. May 18, 2017 4:28 am

    “You just want to kill someone.” I’m not really into psychobabble, but that sounds like projection to me.

    I’m an engineer as well, so I certainly relate to your answer to “Why do you want another tool that kills?”! 🙂

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  4. Roger permalink
    May 18, 2017 6:59 pm

    “A man convinced against his will is of his own opinion still”. Or my other favorite: “My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with facts.”

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  5. Fred the Head permalink
    May 19, 2017 11:16 am

    A leftist colleague said I should give up my guns because I was a potential murderer. I responded, OK, if you amputate your penis because you are a potential rapist.

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    • samadams1776 permalink
      May 22, 2017 9:45 am

      I am so going to steal that one!

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  6. May 28, 2017 10:28 am

    We have guns now that we are older, but when my kids were small I was worried they would sneak into our room and find the guns and shoot themselves or a family member. That was the only legitimate reason I know for not keeping a gun. Some of the other things I’ve heard are more along the lines of what you’ve posted here. “We don’t allow guns on our property because guns kill.” And also the interesting Biblical twist, “God commanded us not to kill.” God also commanded us to protect our families. We are even commanded to protect our pets, so if guns are used to chase off coyotes from killing our chickens, we are fulfilling God’s commands.

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    • Braden Lynch permalink
      June 7, 2017 5:19 pm

      God commands us not to MURDER. That Bible translation using KILL is incorrect. The Bible talks about buying swords for self defense (Luke) and there is no blood guilt in killing home invaders, and if we fail to provide for our families (which obviously includes their protection) we are no better than non-believers, and so on. Justifiable use of force in the Bible is simply everywhere.

      At the most basic level, the Bible shows God’s love of people and the innocent and His wrath against the violent and the murderers. That is why there are severe punishments in the Bible for them.

      Pacifism is ironically a great evil because it allows the violent to continue their carnage. All can see that imperial Japan and Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy had to be utterly defeated. To not meaningfully oppose evil employing violence is to allow it to fester which is un-Godly.

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  7. June 10, 2017 5:42 pm

    I have stopped holding back. If I get these sorts of comments or questions I respond, quite directly. I think people being polite, being afraid, and holding back is part of why the anti gun and anti liberty people feel so bold. They feel like they are a majority because no one comes back at them.

    I really think we all need to stop holding back and let these people know what idiots they are. The solid antis will not be moved but must be fought. The fence sitters can be persuaded through arguments.

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