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If Gun Control Saves Lives, Then Why are California and New York State so Dangerous?

June 21, 2022
Attaack in New York City Subway

A few disturbed young men want to become famous by killing innocent people. Each time they try, we are told that we need to take guns away from honest citizens. That proposal isn’t new. Gun-prohibitionists passed severe gun-control laws decades ago in a few Democrat controlled states. Let’s see if that made us safer. Based on recent evidence from New York State and California, it did not.

You don’t have to take my word for it when I say that California and New York have strict gun-control laws. Take the opinion of the Giffords gun-control group funded by anti-gun billionaire Michael Bloomberg. Giffords gives California an A rating and New York an A-.

Laws like this are why-

  • There are many models of firearms that ordinary citizens can’t own in New York and California.
  • Ordinary citizens must pass background checks when they purchase a handgun at a gun store or at a gun show. In California, there is also a mandatory background check before we may buy ammunition. New York proposed similar ammunition restrictions.
  • California has a mandatory ten-day waiting period after we submit our background check and before we may take possession of our firearm. There is also an additional one-gun-a-month restriction. New York also requires a license before we are allowed to own a handgun.
  • Both states have a magazine capacity limit that reduces the number of cartridges that a firearm magazine may hold.
  • Both states have “Red Flag laws” that allow family members, romantic partners, schoolteachers, doctors, and the police to request that we be disarmed. We are not present when a “Red Flag” hearing is held to confiscate our guns.
  • Both California and New York require statement of “demonstrated need” before honest citizens like us are granted a permit to carry a concealed firearm in public. In many cities, those permits are only given to judges, politicians, and to campaign donors. The rate of concealed carry is far lower in New York State and in California compared to the rest of the US.
  • Schools are “gun-free” zones and even school staff are disarmed.

We were told that gun-control would keep us safe. Last year, California had the most active-shooter incidents of any state in the nation. This year, we saw mass-murders and attempted mass-murders in New York state and even in New York City.

How could these gun control laws fail so badly? Here are a few of the many reasons that gun-control fails time after time-

  • It is obvious that criminals don’t obey the law. In particular, criminals ignore our gun laws. They don’t buy their guns legally or register their guns. Criminals don’t really care about breaking our gun-laws after they’ve decided to assault, rob, rape, or murder.
  • Gun control laws change the behavior of honest people who obey the law. It is easy to forget that honest citizens use a firearm for self-defense thousands of times every day. Ten honest citizens defend themselves with their firearms for each time a criminal possesses a gun in the commission of a crime. Writing good laws isn’t easy, and it is hard for our gun-control laws to disarm violent perpetrators without also disarming the innocent victims of crime.

Armed victims have a real effect on crime. For example, ordinary citizens can get their carry permits in Pennsylvania. In sharp contrast, it is much harder to get a carry permit in New York State. It is impossible for ordinary citizens to secure a permit in New York City. The same is true in San Francisco and Los Angeles. When we look at the data, the rate of violent crime is lower in Pennsylvania than in New York State.

I understand that there are complex reasons for increased rates of crime. We wish that disarming the good guys would somehow disarm the bad guys. That doesn’t work, and gun-control has not made us safer in New York and California.

Changing our focus, we see that mass-murder has dynamics of its own. There, response time is everything. Once the attack starts, it takes us several minutes to escape the murderer and call the police. Police arrive about ten to twelve minutes after they are called. The murderer is unoposed for almost a quarter of an hour if we wait for the police to stop him. It isn’t the weapon that makes this such a dangerous situation. Mass murderers attack gun-free zones so that they are the only one who is armed.

The police are not perfect and we’ve seen them respond to the wrong location. When the police do get to the right place, the officers are not required to enter the building to stop the murderer. We have seen several examples in the last decade where the police refused to enter the building. The police stayed outside even as innocent people were being murdered inside. When the police do respond with force, we’ve seen the police shoot the wrong person. In general, it is better for us to stop the murderer before the police arrive.

Why do we have laws that don’t work? Of course we feel horrible when we learn about people being hurt or killed. Politicians want to appear effective so they “do something” to make us feel better. Unfortunately, we feel better even if that “something” doesn’t actually reduce violent crime. Perhaps there was a time when the news media did research and asked tough questions to find out what worked, but that isn’t true today.

We are now the quality control department for our politicians and the news media. We have to identify when legislation doesn’t work. We have to ask why the next gun-control law will work when the 23-thousand firearms regulations we already have did not stop criminals from using guns.

This time let’s do something that stops the criminal and saves the victims.

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Thank you for reading. I gave you a thousand words and my best ideas. I hope they helped you. RM

Sources-

Giffords gun-control scorecard for 2021- “https://giffords.org/lawcenter/resources/scorecard/

FBI releases summary of active shooter incidents in 2021- “https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-05-23/fbi-counts-61-active-shooter-incidents-last-year-up-52-from-2020

FBI statistics on the violent crime rate by state in 2019- “https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-4

Gun-purchase restrictions- “https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/which-states-require-a-background-check-for-handgun-purchases/

4 Comments leave one →
  1. June 21, 2022 10:09 am

    Rob,

    We as personal defenders are our own first responders – boots on the ground if you will. I like that you referred to it as “quality assurance” for our politicians and news media. That makes a lot of sense and sadly – it seems to be the case.

    As you probably know, military operations are based on the intelligence that is gathered prior to execution. The success OR failure depends on the reliability and accuracy of that intelligence. Unfortunately, the media and politicians perpetually regurgitate the same old rhetoric about guns, gun-control, etc. and the focus remains on GUNS and not CRIME.

    How about “crime-control” as the new focus. What happened to McGruff and “taking a bite out of crime?” I mean, many personal defenders probably aren’t trying to literally prevent crime but rather, prevent themselves, their families, and innocent bystanders from becoming victims of evil-doers. To me – that is just good common sense.

    You also bring up a great point about law enforcement. As a person who most definitely “backs the blue,” police will most always be an after the fact response. The law abiding citizen with a gun is the true first responder in a critical shooting incident and it is up to them to make that hard choice when it comes to personal defense.

    My father always said; “it’s better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six!”

    As a personal defender myself – it doesn’t matter what laws the politicians may or may not pass, I’m committed to personal defense either way.

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  2. June 21, 2022 11:22 am

    Don’t be silly: Gun control has always saved lives.

    Of criminals.

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    • June 21, 2022 11:34 am

      And BTW, you’re waaaaay off-base on one small thing.

      There is no California requirement for “demonstrated need”.
      Each county of the 58 in Califrutopia sets its own rules, which is why 3/5ths (36/58, at last look) of the state issues CCW permits as “shall issue”, or virtually “shall issue” items, and “good cause” consists of “because I want one”.
      A few counties, particularly most of those along the coast, from the Bay Area to Mexico, treat CCW applications as either “probably not giving it to you”, or “no way in Hell are you ever getting one” items. But it’s always a county decision.

      Area-wise, 60% of the state is like living in free America.
      Population-wise, 90% of the state is like living in Soviet Russia.
      IOW, the rural counties here still have their heads screwed on right.
      And if you buy vacation property in the good 36, and declare that your main residence, you can get a CCW that’s valid in all 58 counties, and there’s nothing the commies or their enforcement minions in the other 22 can do about it but piss and moan. 😉

      Just saying.

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  3. June 22, 2022 12:15 pm

    Klamath Falls Herald and News: Saturday, May 28th, 2022/Letters To The Editor

    Media pushes ‘anti-gun’ agenda

    Wednesday’s Herald & News front page article: “Texas school shooting kills 18 children, 3 adults: The 18-year-old shooter, a student at the high school, was shot dead by police,” deserves scrutiny. I refer back to my own Oct. 22, 2017, Herald & News letter: “Gun Violence,” a term that means nothing. A bumper sticker with this caption states it best: “Guns Cause Crime Like Matches Cause Arson.”

    Naturally, the establishment news media predictably exploits criminal violence involving firearms to pontificate, push, and prostitute their deceitful “anti-gun” subversive socialist agenda by blaming the NRA, our Second Amendment, innocent American gun owners, gun manufacturers, and others for the atrocities of depraved evil psychopaths and sociopaths!

    John Swinton (1829-1901), journalist, publisher and New York Times editorial writer, stated it best well over a century ago: “The business of the journalist (newspaper editors) is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, to sell the country for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press. We are the tools and vassals of the rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”

    I rightly despise, detest, and resist this elitist “LBJ/KGB” style anti-gun class warfare, moral and intellectual dishonesty, political deceit, by rebuking and calling it out in the public forum!

    James A. Farmer
    Klamath Falls, Oregon

    Two non NRA affiliated pro-gun/Second Amendment institutions include on the net:

    JPFO, Inc. at http://www.jpfo.org. JPFO, Inc. is “America’s Aggressive Civil Rights Organization”.
    The John Birch Society in Appleton, Wisconsin at http://www.jbs.org and http://www.thenewamerican.com, respectively.

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