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When do we Talk About Politics and Guns?

December 27, 2017

We have our priorities. First, we have to keep guns away from children if we have guns in our home. Next, the adults with a gun in their home need to know how to handle firearms safely, and hopefully, effectively. What should come next? Talking about politics and guns seems to slip off our priority list, and that carries a danger of its own. Carrying a firearm for your safety is a very rational choice, but..there is a “but.” Unless you’re careful, you are also at risk of malicious prosecution for infringing one of our many gun laws. When is it time to talk about gun politics with new students and existing firearms owners?

This topic came to mind when politics leaked over into the gun discussion with a group of black friends. They wanted to keep our discussion of firearms separate from a larger discussion of partisan politics. I respect their point of view. Unfortunately, we can’t ignore politics because there are some very partisan politicians who want us disarmed. Let’s talk about guns and gun politics..and leave the rest of politics for a later date.

Our odds of being the victim of a violent crime are between one-in-two and one-in-three during our lifetime.  That means our family has better than even odds of being victimized. The risk level isn’t the same for everyone. A single mom living in the poor part of a deep blue city and working nights faces a much higher risk than average. As a firearms instructor, or as a friend, we need to talk about these differences.

If only criminals would obey the law

We also have 23 thousand firearms regulations. That means it is impossible for us to know and follow all of them. 23 thousand regulations..and the anti-rights politicians say that gun owners need vastly more regulations in order to “keep all of us safe.” The politicians are seldom questioned by the news media as to how these regulations work.

In fact, this existing ocean of anti-gun regulations have no measurable effect on crime. Criminals violate our gun laws with near impunity. In contrast, gun owners have been sentenced for the possession of a single prohibited bullet. It gets crazier than that, and we need to talk about it.

You can be sentenced to life in prison for printing a plastic gun part at home. That same gun part was completely legal a few weeks ago. No politician would ever claim that criminals will obey laws like this and register these recently regulated gun parts. We already know that prohibition doesn’t stop criminals. Criminals will continue to ignore these new gun regulations just like they ignored the old laws against felons having a gun, against assault and against robbery. Those political facts should matter to every legal gun owner. We need to tell them.

Some bigoted politicians hate guns and hate the law abiding citizens who own them. I have to tell my students about this. It is my professional duty as a firearms instructor. It is my moral duty as an advocate for civil rights. The easy road is to hide from politics and pretend it will go away. It won’t.

6 Comments leave one →
  1. fsilber permalink
    December 28, 2017 7:07 am

    At the very least you need to warn them of the threat of malicious prosecution if they travel to a neighboring state that does not recognize their permit. New Jersey is infamous for doing such things, with soccer moms sentenced to years in prison for nothing.

    On a related subject, it’s important to discuss behavior during traffic stops in states where your permit _is_ valid. Especially for law-abiding armed citizens who are black, one must foresee the possibility that police might be jumpy (especially in the case of Philandro Castile, where the cop stopped him because he resembled an armed robber they were looking for). Some play-acting scenarios might be useful. Show them that they should be able to have licence, registration, insurance card and gun permit to hand over together while one’s hands are in plain sight, and to practice moving very slowly and telling the cop about each move one would make, getting his approval before doing it.


  2. Dave Y permalink
    December 28, 2017 9:12 am

    I usually trip over “land mine” political commentary in class and defer it until the safety and proficiency aspects of training are -done- . otherwise, class can go on for hours and nothing gets learned.

    Students have made it this far – taking a gun class, by at least tacit interest in the topic and more often than not, a significant interest, such as seeking out a permit. They had to look up and find information on the class, so it stands to reason they are at least receptive to the idea of political engagement; potentially more so than your average citizen. How much more so? I’ve not been able to pin a percentage to it. One class may have half who are both interested and willing to swell the grassroots ranks. Most classes, most students are at least somewhat interested, the difference is who among them is willing to act at various levels. This is hard to gauge, because gun owners can be a lazy lot.

    A lot of my students have reported back – hey, I got an answer from congressman so-and-so, look! This is tricky. I want to applaud their effort for going this far, but gently remind and encourage them to respond appropriately to the letter that has 5 paragraphs, says what they want to hear, and promises nothing. This can be a very discouraging conversation, but handling it right is how you make better activists.

    “Unfortunately, we can’t ignore politics because there are some very partisan politicians who want us disarmed”

    We should unpack this a little. Just as we have gun owners “on our side” who say they will write that email, or call that congressman and never do, we have politicians who say they support us, but in their heart of hearts, they also want the citizenry disarmed. These tend to be the “establishment class”. This is how pro gun legislation goes nowhere in Congress by and large.

    Your point is legit. Activism needs to be encouraged and as trainers, we need to stop treating that topic with kid gloves. We openly discuss shooting sports like IDPA, USPSA and even informal “matches”, so maybe we need to pin some extra time on to our classes for discussion of how to not lose (more of) our rights.


  3. December 28, 2017 12:33 pm

    Marxists and Islamists who infect our federal government plus the media prostitutes who protect them will gleefully lie, falsify, fabricate, slander, libel, deceive, delude, bribe, and treasonably betray the free citizens of the United States into becoming an unarmed population. Unarmed populations have been treated as slaves and chattel since the dawn of history.

    The Second Amendment foes lying about gun control – Firearms are our constitutionally mandated safeguard against tyranny by a powerful federal government.

    Only dictators, tyrants, despots, totalitarians, and those who want to control and ultimately to enslave you support gun control.

    No matter what any president, senator, congressman, or hard-left mainstream media hookers tell you concerning the statist utopian fantasy of safety and security through further gun control: They are lying. If their lips are moving, they are lying about gun control. These despots truly hate America..

    These tyrants hate freedom, liberty, personal responsibility, and private property. But the reality is that our citizens’ ownership of firearms serves as a concrete deterrent against despotism. They are demanding to hold the absolute power of life and death over you and your family. Ask the six million Jews, and the other five million murdered martyrs who perished in the Nazi death camps, how being disarmed by a powerful tyranny ended any chances of fighting back. Ask the murdered martyrs of the Warsaw Ghetto about gun control.

    Their single agenda is to control you after you are disarmed. When the people who want to control you hold the absolute power of life and death over your family, you have been enslaved.

    Will we stand our ground, maintaining our constitutionally guaranteed Second Amendment rights, fighting those who would enslave us?

    American Thinker

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  4. MaddMedic permalink
    December 29, 2017 5:29 pm

    Reblogged this on Freedom Is Just Another Word….

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  5. Brittius permalink
    December 30, 2017 4:29 am

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